[MakeLV] World Maker Faire NYC 2013 - Bus Rental

Fri Nov 30 13:20:37 CST 2012

How does Da Vinci solve the CDL issue for moving its stuff around?
Matthew Tuerk

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On Nov 30, 2012, at 8:55 AM, Rob Roschewsk <rob at pabut.org> wrote:

> An idea I raised last year .... contact one of the "COMMUTER VAN POOL" companies that might go into Philly or some such .... they probably have VANs sitting idle on the weekends .... 
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> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Jeremy Sawruk <jeremy.sawruk at gmail.com> wrote:
> I think having multiple vans is a better solution: smaller group commitment, no need to pay for a driver, and no CDL. Given the number that went last year, we would have had 2 vans. Would this be more cost effective?
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> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Rob Roschewsk <rob at pabut.org> wrote:
> Or .... we explore the "multiple VANs" theory ... get a good rate on some commuter vans ... then you have smaller "commitment intervals" .... i.e. groups of 10 ... 
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> FYI ... my son's school bought a small school bus and have been running the teachers through getting their CDL just for the reason of class trips and sports events etc. because bus companies have become so outrageous .... 
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> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Josiah Ritchie <josiah at josiahritchie.com> wrote:
> Do we have anyone around with a CDL who could do the driving for us at a reduced rate?
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> JSR/
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> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 12:42 AM, whatever <whatever at taggers.org> wrote:
> the average car gets 300 miles to a tank so... thats one compelete fill up and a 1/3rd of one so more like 40+13.33 but....
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> On 11/29/2012 9:01 PM, Rob Roschewsk wrote:
>> What do you drive a Hummer ?? :) .. It's 206 miles from round trip from the HIVE to Citifield .... My car gets 30MPG on a BAD DAY ... rounding up that's 7 gallons ... at $4/gal that's still just $28 ... $20 for tolls, $10 parking ... OK so $58 ... That's still $14.50/person .... I'm just sayin' :)
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>> So $15 a person is probably a reasonable target.
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>> I'm betting a good portion of the bus rate is the cost of the driver .... 
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>> On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 5:56 PM, whatever <whatever at taggers.org> wrote:
>> its cheaper then driving... figure its almost two tanks of gas and probably 25 in tolls plus parking (which is probably about 8 bucks) depending on fuel economy so about 133/4 so 33.25 yeah ok its not cheaper.... still more environmentally friendly and the more we pack on the bus the cheaper it gets (i figured 25 because that was our approximate turnout for last year) if we fill the expensive bus it comes out to a svelte (spell check) 21.45 per person. if we fill the cheap bus figuiring it seats 40 its 12.50 a seat.
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>> On 11/29/2012 5:32 PM, Rob Roschewsk wrote:
>>> Just seems so counter intuitive ....you would think "mass transit" (granted it's not real mass transit) would be cheaper than driving .... these are all looking like $25 per person .... I had 4 people in my car it it was no where NEAR $100 .. actual cost was probably <$50 ... Granted at the IRS Mileage rate ($0.55/mi) you're getting to break even .... 
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>>> Sorry nothing constructive to add just ranting :)
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>>> On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 10:18 PM, whatever <whatever at taggers.org> wrote:
>>> what other amenities do these buses have? because it looks like we're talking a $500 bathroom here.
>>> we could use two different bus companies possibly.
>>> 
>>> quick math if count on 25 (about what we had last year)
>>> its 47.20 per person nearly double.. unsurprisingly.
>>> On 11/29/2012 2:39 PM, Ellis Farmer wrote:
>>>> Well, I have to work late again, so I won't see you all tonight, but...
>>>> 
>>>> Update on the bus rental: They seem kind of high.
>>>> 
>>>> e.g. Here are a couple of the estimates:
>>>> 55ppl 10hrs $1,180+parking+tolls+$83PerAddl'Hr (includes 18% gratuity)
>>>> 55ppl 14hrsMax $100/hr+parking+tolls
>>>> fuel is included in both
>>>> 
>>>> However, I just thought up a new idea yesterday... rent TWO buses for TWO 1-way trips.  This way we don't pay for the 6-8 hours we are not using it.  I don't think all the companies do it, but I'm looking into it.
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>>>> The school bus had a 10hr limit due to union restrictions, though I don't think other places have that limit.  Were we at the fair long enough (obviously not, but seriously...)?
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>>>> We left the DaVinci center at 9am and were supposed to get back at 7pm, but we got back at 9pm?  Did we leave the faire at 5pm?  Does anyone recall when we arrived at the faire?
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>>>> -Ellis
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