[MakeLV] World Maker Faire NYC 2013 - Bus Rental

David Smith david at davincisciencecenter.org
Fri Nov 30 18:04:16 CST 2012


We don't have any vehicles that require a CDL.  When we need a bigger
vehicle, we have to hire one with a driver.  We do have a school bus
without seats, and Troy's dad, who has a school bus license, moves it for
us when we need to, but it is currently stored unused.

Dave

On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Matthew Tuerk <mtuerk at allentownedc.com>wrote:

> How does Da Vinci solve the CDL issue for moving its stuff around?
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> On Nov 30, 2012, at 8:55 AM, Rob Roschewsk <rob at pabut.org> wrote:
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> An idea I raised last year .... contact one of the "COMMUTER VAN POOL"
> companies that might go into Philly or some such .... they probably have
> VANs sitting idle on the weekends ....
>
> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Jeremy Sawruk <jeremy.sawruk at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> I think having multiple vans is a better solution: smaller group
>> commitment, no need to pay for a driver, and no CDL. Given the number that
>> went last year, we would have had 2 vans. Would this be more cost effective?
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Rob Roschewsk <rob at pabut.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Or .... we explore the "multiple VANs" theory ... get a good rate on
>>> some commuter vans ... then you have smaller "commitment intervals" ....
>>> i.e. groups of 10 ...
>>>
>>> FYI ... my son's school bought a small school bus and have
>>> been running the teachers through getting their CDL just for the reason of
>>> class trips and sports events etc. because bus companies have become so
>>> outrageous ....
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Josiah Ritchie <
>>> josiah at josiahritchie.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Do we have anyone around with a CDL who could do the driving for us at
>>>> a reduced rate?
>>>>
>>>> JSR/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 12:42 AM, whatever <whatever at taggers.org>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  the average car gets 300 miles to a tank so... thats one compelete
>>>>> fill up and a 1/3rd of one so more like 40+13.33 but....
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/29/2012 9:01 PM, Rob Roschewsk wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you drive a Hummer ?? :) .. It's 206 miles from round trip
>>>>> from the HIVE to Citifield .... My car gets 30MPG on a BAD DAY ... rounding
>>>>> up that's 7 gallons ... at $4/gal that's still just $28 ... $20 for tolls,
>>>>> $10 parking ... OK so $58 ... That's still $14.50/person .... I'm just
>>>>> sayin' :)
>>>>>
>>>>> So $15 a person is probably a reasonable target.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm betting a good portion of the bus rate is the cost of the driver
>>>>> ....
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 5:56 PM, whatever <whatever at taggers.org>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  its cheaper then driving... figure its almost two tanks of gas and
>>>>>> probably 25 in tolls plus parking (which is probably about 8 bucks)
>>>>>> depending on fuel economy so about 133/4 so 33.25 yeah ok its not
>>>>>> cheaper.... still more environmentally friendly and the more we pack on the
>>>>>> bus the cheaper it gets (i figured 25 because that was our approximate
>>>>>> turnout for last year) if we fill the expensive bus it comes out to a
>>>>>> svelte (spell check) 21.45 per person. if we fill the cheap bus figuiring
>>>>>> it seats 40 its 12.50 a seat.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/29/2012 5:32 PM, Rob Roschewsk wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just seems so counter intuitive ....you would think "mass transit"
>>>>>> (granted it's not real mass transit) would be cheaper than driving ....
>>>>>> these are all looking like $25 per person .... I had 4 people in my car it
>>>>>> it was no where NEAR $100 .. actual cost was probably <$50 ... Granted at
>>>>>> the IRS Mileage rate ($0.55/mi) you're getting to break even ....
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Sorry nothing constructive to add just ranting :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 10:18 PM, whatever <whatever at taggers.org>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  what other amenities do these buses have? because it looks like
>>>>>>> we're talking a $500 bathroom here.
>>>>>>> we could use two different bus companies possibly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> quick math if count on 25 (about what we had last year)
>>>>>>> its 47.20 per person nearly double.. unsurprisingly.
>>>>>>> On 11/29/2012 2:39 PM, Ellis Farmer wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, I have to work late again, so I won't see you all tonight,
>>>>>>> but...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Update on the bus rental: They seem kind of high.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *e.g. Here are a couple of the estimates:*
>>>>>>> 55ppl 10hrs $1,180+parking+tolls+$83PerAddl'Hr (includes 18%
>>>>>>> gratuity)
>>>>>>> 55ppl 14hrsMax $100/hr+parking+tolls
>>>>>>> fuel is included in both
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> However, I just thought up a new idea yesterday... rent TWO buses
>>>>>>> for TWO 1-way trips.  This way we don't pay for the 6-8 hours we are not
>>>>>>> using it.  I don't think all the companies do it, but I'm looking into it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The school bus had a 10hr limit due to union restrictions, though I
>>>>>>> don't think other places have that limit.  *Were we at the fair
>>>>>>> long enough (obviously not, but seriously...)?*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We left the DaVinci center at 9am and were supposed to get back at
>>>>>>> 7pm, but *we got back at 9pm?  Did we leave the faire at 5pm?  Does
>>>>>>> anyone recall when we arrived at the faire?*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Ellis
>>>>>>>
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