Isn't the stability issue why people are going with QUAD COPTERS these days ???? Are they easier to navigate?? <br><br>Maybe there's another design that's easier to control .... I dunno ... I saw a remote controlled blimp once that looked really cool .... granted the slightest breeze becomes a challenge .... <br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Will <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:staticphantom@gmail.com">staticphantom@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Something like that has been created Ellis. Problem with those systems is that from a development perspective one must have many of the controls developed for the helicopter. Many calculations are put into a stable system which in the end may or may not meet the needs of the pilot. From a development perspective, you need experienced pilots to work with a helicopter and to dial those control settings. When developing, a skilled pilot can recover from a failed "autopilot" which saves a lot of time and money. <div>
<br></div><div>If you could take just any helicopter out the box and put some autopilot system on it, it wouldn't be difficult. The problem is that helicopters are naturally unstable in terms of control theory and making a 6 axis + stability system is a pain to develop. Getting your gain values correct wouldn't be too difficult. The best system out there right now that research groups are using is micro-pilot which is EXPENSIVE for what you get. If you have more questions, you can always consult the guys at DIYdrones.</div>
<div><br></div><div>-Will <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Ellis Farmer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:saxywolf@gmail.com" target="_blank">saxywolf@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Lack of skilled pilots? What about designing helicopter controls that let anyone fly?<div><br></div><div>The controls should tell the computer where the pilot wants the helicopter... the computer tells the mechanics what to do. You could even make it know where the pilot is (or his perspective) so that the control to move "left/right" is always perpendicular to the line from the pilot to the helicopter. If wind (or other) compensation is becoming a problem, give the pilot a warning.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Is there not something already like this?</div><div><span><font color="#888888"><br clear="all">-Ellis</font></span><div><div><br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Will <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:staticphantom@gmail.com" target="_blank">staticphantom@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Dave, <div><br></div><div>I know for a fact that ONR does support helicopter shops because I was in one for a little. The biggest problem with the research with helicopters is that there is a lack skilled pilots and mechanics getting involved with research. Not to mention they would love more research done with IMU based navigation in general for flying platforms. Interesting and fun way to start working with a hot topic in navigation would be Python based OpenCV. </div>
<span><font color="#888888">
<div><br></div></font></span><div><span><font color="#888888">-Will </font></span><div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Keith Miller <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:firehopper@gmail.com" target="_blank">firehopper@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>as for the Legos, I have a big collection, including a rcx and a nxt 2.0
<img src="" style="border-bottom-style:none;border-left-style:none;border-top-style:none;border-right-style:none" alt="Smile"> but haven't messed with
it much lately. </div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title="staticphantom@gmail.com" href="mailto:staticphantom@gmail.com" target="_blank">Will</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 14, 2011 9:57 AM</div><div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="makelehighvalley@makelehighvalley.com" href="mailto:makelehighvalley@makelehighvalley.com" target="_blank">Build things for fun!</a>
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<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [MakeLV] Get money from the Navy to start a
Hackerspace!</div></div></div></div>
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<div style="font-style:normal;display:inline;font-family:'Calibri';color:#000000;font-size:small;font-weight:normal;text-decoration:none"><div><div>I
have been involved in the past with First Lego League. You're better off setting
that up with Lehigh University for that because they have the tech
demonstrations. Even then, as I remember you really don't see the funding until
you host a regional or state level First competition. I like idea, but we can't
limit ourselves to the constraints of the competition, and unless proven
differently I believe it's hard to become a significant venue for First.
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<div>AUVSI has some interesting competitions however where we can have a lot of
fun. Either that or host an event in the parking lot like this <a href="http://www.sparkfun.com/products/9016" target="_blank">http://www.sparkfun.com/products/9016</a>
or host it inside the building to eliminate use of GPS. Applicants can be as
simple as a wall follower robot to get the kids in or line tracking. When
dealing with ONR, the recurring theme with their projects tend to revolve around
navigation. Demonstrations and work to help get ONR grants could be work with
IMU's and basic tracking.</div>
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<div>As far as painting the water tower.... holy crap that is a hard task to
automate. It would be fun but let's not get too far ahead of ourselves. </div>
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<div>-Will <br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Josiah Ritchie <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:josiah@josiahritchie.com" target="_blank">josiah@josiahritchie.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="border-left:#ccc 1px solid;margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">Could we paint water towers, shipls or bill boards with a
helicopter platform like that? If we could load a description of the surface
and an image into software and control the copter to precisely apply spray
paint, I think we'd have an interesting project.
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<div>JSR/
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Rob Roschewsk <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rob@pabut.org" target="_blank">rob@pabut.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="border-left:#ccc 1px solid;margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">One thing comes to mind FIRST LEGO League (FLL) <a href="http://usfirst.org/roboticsprograms/fll" target="_blank">http://usfirst.org/roboticsprograms/fll</a> <br>
<br>Maybe we
could partner with a local school or Davinci ???? <br><br>
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<div>On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Will <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:staticphantom@gmail.com" target="_blank">staticphantom@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div>
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<div>
<blockquote style="border-left:#ccc 1px solid;margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">We're going to need a concentrated effort on this ONR
grant. Right now I don't see how we can qualify at the hacker space
because as a whole we haven't completed or have undertaken any projects
relevant to the proposal and we haven't held any classes or events geared
towards the k-10 crowd. Does anyone know of any projects we could do or at
lease work on in pieces for this grant?
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<div>I know from my experience helicopters and quad copters were amazing.
My project did end up getting taken to another university for an ONR
grant. That platform that I showed in the youtube video the last time I
was at the space was to be used for a river following flying platform.
While ambitions for that project are grand, we can build small components
for a project like this <a href="http://iarc.angel-strike.com/" target="_blank">http://iarc.angel-strike.com/</a>. I ran a group of
undergrads working on that project before I left. We had a flying platform
at least but it didn't complete it. I'm all ears for any ideas so we can
1) start working and 2) start writing this grant. </div>
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<div>-Will<br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 5:50 PM, Matthew Tuerk
<span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mtuerk@allentownedc.com" target="_blank">mtuerk@allentownedc.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>Extra fun tonight! IndieMade craft market crafting night<br><br>
<div>Matthew Tuerk</div>
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<div><br>On Nov 10, 2011, at 5:42 PM, Rob Roschewsk <<a href="mailto:rob@pabut.org" target="_blank">rob@pabut.org</a>>
wrote:<br><br></div>
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<div>Don't wait for me :( </div>
<div>I'm still in Middletown, NJ .... 90 <span>Miles away .... Not
looking good for tonight ....</span></div>
<div><br>--> Rob
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<div>Let's discuss tonight.<br>
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<div>On Nov 10, 2011, at 1:11 PM, David Smith wrote:</div><br>
<blockquote type="cite">I will take a look at this. Most
grants will need a non-profit fiscal agent. Da Vinci Science
Center might be the logical agent on this, depending on what the
RFP says, and what my boss says ;-)<br><br>Dave<br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Rob
Roschewsk <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rob@pabut.org" target="_blank">rob@pabut.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="border-left:#ccc 1px solid;margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><a href="http://www.adafruit.com/blog/2011/11/09/get-money-from-the-navy-to-start-a-hackerspace/" target="_blank">http://www.adafruit.com/blog/2011/11/09/get-money-from-the-navy-to-start-a-hackerspace/</a><br>
<br>So
... I think there are a few grant writers out there ....
????<br><br>ONR is seeking proposals in support of education
programs in STEM. The ONR mission of STEM is to foster an
interest in, knowledge of, and study in science, technology,
engineering and mathematics nationwide to ensure an educated and
well-prepared naval and national STEM workforce. In support of
this mission, the following four investment priorities have been
identified:<br>● Inspire the next generation of scientists and
engineers. [Programs that fall mostly within Grades K-10]<br>●
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with Naval relevance. [Programs that fall mostly within Grades
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