<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=iso-8859-1"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">How does Da Vinci solve the CDL issue for moving its stuff around?<br><div apple-content-edited="true">
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<br><div><div>On Nov 30, 2012, at 8:55 AM, Rob Roschewsk <<a href="mailto:rob@pabut.org">rob@pabut.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">An idea I raised last year .... contact one of the "COMMUTER VAN POOL" companies that might go into Philly or some such .... they probably have VANs sitting idle on the weekends .... <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Jeremy Sawruk <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jeremy.sawruk@gmail.com" target="_blank">jeremy.sawruk@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
I think having multiple vans is a better solution: smaller group commitment, no need to pay for a driver, and no CDL. Given the number that went last year, we would have had 2 vans. Would this be more cost effective?<div class="gmail_extra">
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Rob Roschewsk <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rob@pabut.org" target="_blank">rob@pabut.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Or .... we explore the "multiple VANs" theory ... get a good rate on some commuter vans ... then you have smaller "commitment intervals" .... i.e. groups of 10 ... <div><br></div><div>FYI ... my son's school bought a small school bus and have been running the teachers through getting their CDL just for the reason of class trips and sports events etc. because bus companies have become so outrageous .... <div>
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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Josiah Ritchie <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:josiah@josiahritchie.com" target="_blank">josiah@josiahritchie.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Do we have anyone around with a CDL who could do the driving for us at a reduced rate?<div><br></div><div>JSR/</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 12:42 AM, whatever <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:whatever@taggers.org" target="_blank">whatever@taggers.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>the average car gets 300 miles to a
tank so... thats one compelete fill up and a 1/3rd of one so more
like 40+13.33 but....<div><br>
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On 11/29/2012 9:01 PM, Rob Roschewsk wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">What do you drive a Hummer ?? :) .. It's 206 miles
from round trip from the HIVE to Citifield .... My car gets 30MPG
on a BAD DAY ... rounding up that's 7 gallons ... at $4/gal that's
still just $28 ... $20 for tolls, $10 parking ... OK so $58 ...
That's still $14.50/person .... I'm just sayin' :)<br>
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So $15 a person is probably a reasonable target.<br>
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I'm betting a good portion of the bus rate is the cost of the
driver .... <br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 5:56 PM, whatever
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<div>its cheaper then driving... figure its almost two tanks
of gas and probably 25 in tolls plus parking (which is
probably about 8 bucks) depending on fuel economy so about
133/4 so 33.25 yeah ok its not cheaper.... still more
environmentally friendly and the more we pack on the bus
the cheaper it gets (i figured 25 because that was our
approximate turnout for last year) if we fill the
expensive bus it comes out to a svelte (spell check) 21.45
per person. if we fill the cheap bus figuiring it seats 40
its 12.50 a seat.<br>
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On 11/29/2012 5:32 PM, Rob Roschewsk wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">Just seems so counter intuitive
....you would think "mass transit" (granted it's not real
mass transit) would be cheaper than driving .... these are
all looking like $25 per person .... I had 4 people in my
car it it was no where NEAR $100 .. actual cost was
probably <$50 ... Granted at the IRS Mileage rate
($0.55/mi) you're getting to break even ....
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<div>Sorry nothing constructive to add just ranting :)<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 10:18
PM, whatever <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:whatever@taggers.org" target="_blank">whatever@taggers.org</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div>what other amenities do these buses have?
because it looks like we're talking a $500
bathroom here.<br>
we could use two different bus companies
possibly.<br>
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quick math if count on 25 (about what we had
last year)<br>
its 47.20 per person nearly double..
unsurprisingly.<br>
On 11/29/2012 2:39 PM, Ellis Farmer wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">Well, I have to work
late again, so I won't see you all tonight,
but...<br>
<br>
Update on the bus rental: They seem kind of
high.<br>
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<u>e.g. Here are a couple of the estimates:</u><br>
55ppl 10hrs $1,180+parking+tolls+$83PerAddl'Hr
(includes 18% gratuity)<br>
55ppl 14hrsMax $100/hr+parking+tolls<br>
fuel is included in both<br>
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However, I just thought up a new idea
yesterday... rent TWO buses for TWO 1-way
trips. This way we don't pay for the 6-8
hours we are not using it. I don't think all
the companies do it, but I'm looking into it.<br>
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The school bus had a 10hr limit due to union
restrictions, though I don't think other
places have that limit. <b>Were we at the
fair long enough (obviously not, but
seriously...)?</b><br>
<br>
We left the DaVinci center at 9am and were
supposed to get back at 7pm, but <b>we got
back at 9pm? Did we leave the faire at
5pm? Does anyone recall when we arrived at
the faire?</b><br>
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-Ellis<br>
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